Xavier not looking for respect...but should be getting it

by Chris Wetzel 2/22/2008 4:33:00 PM

The University of Cincinnati basketball team is riding high a year earlier than expected, currently a surprising sixth (8-5) in the Big East Conference.

The buzz around town is not only about UC's near-guarantee of postseason play in the NIT, but maybe taking the Big East tournament title - and the automatic NCAA Tournament bid that comes with it - all the way to those hallowed March brackets.

But not even 20 minutes away lies a team in waiting; a team finding success right under the city's nose.  Sure, you hear about it, but there's not a whole lot of discussion about the remarkable season Xavier is having.

Maybe it's the stigma that the A-10 is a has-been conference, but anyone who has watched this team play would be hard-pressed not to root for them.

Earlier this year, when so-called experts proclaimed Xavier to be a three-seed in disguise, no one payed attention.  Not even Skyline-eating, pig-run-training Cincinnatians.

Yet, here they are, decimating the A-10 and dominating the month of February like they have for the past few years, and only after they crack the top 10 do they get any credit.

Still, it's only a blip on the radar in this self-proclaimed college basketball town.  Even the uncharacteristically average Kentucky Wildcats are getting more love.

There is no doubt that UC is making an incredible showing of their own, and Big Blue supporters have their eyes set on an outside chance to make the tourney as well, but Xavier deserves all the fan support they can get.  They play like a team (something fans from this area typically admire) and have a good shot at running deep come March Madness time.  No coaches are there threatening the fans (ala the Bearcats) to show up or else; Sean Miller continues to steer the ship and his players are putting their nose to the grindstone regardless of the amount of praise they get for doing it night in and night out.

Unfortunately, Xavier has tried to make noise through their stellar play and no one notices.  Many trees have fallen this season at the hands of the Muskies, but area sports fans for some strange reason aren't around, and are wondering if any noise is being made at all.  They will miss out on one of the greatest local seasons in recent history, and will swear they were there all along as the accolades come in March and April throughout their long tournament run.

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2/22/2008 5:51:05 PM

Jimmy Dinsmore

Please pay attention Xavier fans, it drives me crazy to explain this all the time, and all Muskie fans have this complex, but (and I'll cap it so it's loud and clear XAVIER IS A MID-MAJOR PROGRAM THAT NOBODY OUTSIDE OF A SMALL (but strong and loyal) FANBASE GIVE A WET FART ABOUT. They play in a crapp conference with schools nobody's ever heard of. I love the way this team plays this year. This is their best shot at really making some noise. But spare me the Rodney Dangerfield act already. You are respected, but you're not now or ever going to get the spotlight of UC or UK here in this area. Your competition and your fans are mid-major level. That's fine. Be who you are and not who you aren't. Be the #2 or 3 seed in the NCAA tournament that everybody picks as the first high seed to go down. Who cares. Prove them wrong, but please, shut up already about it.
I heard a Xavier fan say, I can't believe OJ Mayo didn't come to Xavier. Are you kidding me? Dude wants NBA exposure. He won't get that at tiny little Xavier. Get over yourself already and just play damn good team basketball.

Jimmy Dinsmore

2/23/2008 11:50:37 AM

Adam Bartel

A mid-major that beat the crap out of Indiana and K-State, lost a tight game to the #2 team in the country. They made the final eight just a few years ago. Yeah, this is their best chance for exposure. Remind me what UC has done in the tournament over the past umpteen years.

I heard a bunch of UC fans say a lot of stupid crap, but I don't attribute those things to the entire fan base. That's just weak to take the dumbest thing you've ever heard from one dumb fan and paint everyone with that broad brush.

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2/23/2008 12:44:07 PM

Jimmy Dinsmore

Adam, first I could sight so many more stupid or just clueless statements made by X fans, that was just one. X fans know their basketball. They support their team, but they don't ever realize their place in the big scheme and even in the Tri-State. Xavier is like the Jan Brady of local college basketball. Always feeling left out, always feeling like the forgotten one. It's UC (Marcia Brady) and then UK (Cindy Brady) or switch those too, for whichever team you're more aligned with. But, either way, Xavier is a mid-major program. If they weren't how can you explain why they don't keep coaches. It's a place to prove yourself as a coach. I think Miller will move up sometime very soon because there are greener pastures. It's just a fact, not knock. But, you sound like a typical Xavier fan, sighting UC's sucky tournament success (which I blame Huggins for). I'm waiting for you to bring up Art Long punching a horse next. All Xavier fans are the same. They feel disrespected, think higher of their school than everyone else (which isn't a bad thing), but also give off this holier-than-thou attitude. Yes, I'm a UC fan and have always hated Xaveir and always will. But since my program is down (but on the upswing), I've been watching Xavier and cheering for them because I like the way they play basketball under Miller. They're a damn good team. I hope they represent well in the NCAA, I will be pulling for them (within reason). I don't want them to do too well because it will go further to their fan bases' heads. If they make a Final Four god help us all. They'll be comparing themselves to Duke and UNC and the lot.

Jimmy Dinsmore

2/24/2008 7:14:02 PM

Showrunner

Jimmy you obviously are a frustrated fan of a program that never lives up to their own fans expectations. Don't try to rip down other programs in an attempt to raise your own.

Anyone calling Xavier a mid-major program is a joke and has no clue about college basketball. What school has the most wins in March over the past 5 years?.....Duke? Kansas? Kentucky? NOPE NOPE and NOPE. Try Xavier. The same Xavier that just wrapped up their second straight undefeated Feb. Only one other school in the country can claim that. The same Xavier with more current NBA players than 71% of BCS schools. The same Xavier that plays the 16th toughest schedule in the country and is currently 24-4, top 10 in the country, #6 in the RPI, only school in the country with 6 players averaging double digits in scoring. Need I go on? I can!

You want to rip the A10? You can try, but it would just prove your ignorance. Currently the 7th best conf. in the country. Over the past 10 seasons the A10 checks in as the 6th best conf. in the country....Just ahead of the Big East!!! Don't believe it? Run the numbers yourself. www.collegerpi.com and get your calculator clicking. Two of the last 6 National Players of the Year are from......You guessed it, the A10.

Now I have to admit, clueless, closeminded, jaded, bitter fans like yourself are what make jobs like mine easy. As a writer for various college basketball publications, the talking heads of the media gives me plenty of opportunities to skewer their factless arguments, but chatboards/forums with arguments like yours are priceless quotes that make writing editorials like shooting fish in a barrel.

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2/27/2008 9:53:59 AM

Chris Wetzel

Here's the funny part about this...I'm a UC fan. Have been since Tony Yates was leading crap team after crap team. When Roger McClendon reigned supreme.

But, I'm able to step back and admire the season Xavier has put together. When the Crosstown Shootout comes around, I'm always cheering on those Bearcats. All I'm asking is for fans in the city of Cincinnati to open their eyes and catch a game or two on the tube before ESPN talking heads start noticing something people 5 miles away are not willing to admit: Xavier is for real.

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