No Love for Raines or Blyleven

by Greg Simons 1/8/2008 8:39:00 PM

It's actually not too surprising that Tim Raines was not elected into the Baseball Hall of Fame.  After all, first-ballot election is reserved for the best of the best, and Raines clearly is not one of the "inner-circle" HOFers.

However, giving him only 24.3% of the votes is a sorry performance by the BBWAA.  Raines hit for a good enough average and took enough walks to reach base more times in his career than Tony Gwynn.  He stole 808 bases and did so with the highest success rate in the game's history.  He was one of the most dominant players of the 1980s and contributed solid-to-strong performances throughout the 90s.  It might take a few seasons, but hopefully Raines will eventually get his due and receive a plaque in Cooperstown.

Also, Bert Blyleven unfortunately fell short again.  Pitching on some poor teams kept his win total to "only" 287 - below the magic number of 300 -  and pushed up his loss total to 250.  But he was a terrific pitcher, finishing his career with 3701 strikeouts - third all-time when he retired and still fifth overall - and a 3.31 ERA.  His years on the ballot are winding down, but this year's vote percentage of 61.9% bodes well for his candidacy in the coming elections.  Let's hope he has enough time remaining to gain that extra 13.1% support he needs to make it in.

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1/9/2008 12:01:43 PM

Jimmy Dinsmore

Rock Raines is not a HOFer. Period. Blyleven, maybe. But I'm sick of the BBWAA altogether. They monopolize and put their biased opinions on these players' legacies. Who are they? Why not just put them in on the first attempt if they're hall worthy. It drives me crazy when after 8 or 9 tries a guy gets in. What did Goose Gossage do this off season to improve his chances? Are you kidding me?

In my opinion, it's the hall of fame, which means the absolute most elite. Not those that were really good.

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1/9/2008 1:39:50 PM

Adam Bartel

Raines isn't a first timer (well obviously he wasn't), but he'll get in, and he should. Eight of the top 10 career leaders in steals are in the HOF; the two that aren't (Vince Coleman and Arlie Latham) are mirror images of each other. Raines was a seven time All-Star, has a batting title, finished in the top 10 in his league in steals 11 times, had a .294 career average, career OPS+ of 123, and wasn't a slouch in the field. Not a top tier HOF'er, but definitely worthy.

Agreed on Blyleven, if he got to 300 wins he'd be in because of the "magic number". I don't know that I'd vote for him, he just never gave you the feeling that you were watching greatness whenever he pitched, but that's just me. If he got in I wouldn't close the place down, you've made a pretty good case Greg.

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1/11/2008 11:33:14 AM

Jimmy Dinsmore

No way Tim Raines is a HOFer. Adam, I'd love to hear your definition of Hall of Famer. These are the best of the best, not the really good ones.

By your definition, don't you think it's absurd that Don Mattingly isn't in the Hall? He's got numerous batting titles and is comparable to Wade Boggs who's in. When you watched Donnie Baseball hit, you knew you were watching one of the best pure hitters. Plus he was good defensively, albeit at first base. Your thoughts?

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